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From: shanekeiko Date: December 24th, 2004 10:46 am (UTC) (Link)

literal or figurative?

Someone in the leather world once told me, "Everyone has a fetish. You think of something and I'll bet it turns on someone out there." I think I was remarking on how dirty the soles of my feet were from walking around barefoot.

If one turns away slightly from the literal definition of "fetish," are we really talking about "preferences"?

I've seen/met quite a few women who have no clue as to what their own sexuality consists of, therefore are willing to do most anything for a shoot because it meets with the approval of the photographer. I find that to be rather sad. I want to give 'em a good shake and hand them a reader on 21st century feminism.
From: wrayb Date: December 24th, 2004 11:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: literal or figurative? preferences

Yes, previous discussions explored what is preference vs. fetish. More exploration and charted is needed.

my toss of words into the realm of ideas has nearly as many divergent threads as kumi's rant. I am hoping to hone in on having "erotic" take its proper (and respectable) place and not have "fetish" diluted into anything of fashion with latex, tattoo, piercing, rope or leather. The concept of fetish has transitioned from (as Midori put it) the "old dead white guys" clinical term to 1950s whips and enclosure to what? Now is the evolution of what.
From: shanekeiko Date: December 24th, 2004 01:53 pm (UTC) (Link)

now and then

True indeed -- evolution of terminology to capture desire.

I wonder if we collectively use as few words as possible in our vocabularies, partly because the younger generations do not read as much as previous ones, so in order to transmit ideas, we look to a baseline term that isn't fully understood or accurately defined, but it conveys an idea.
From: wrayb Date: December 24th, 2004 02:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: now and then

conveys an idea? more like has associations. modern world culture is dominated by sound bites and advertising photography. for darwinian reasons that which is communicated is that which can be perceived in the few seconds that we make up out mind whether to change the channel or not. The option of 999 channels conditions us to make our choice quickly or we may miss what we are looking for. That is one condition of learning and communication now.

I am remembering that it is up to those who find something of value or truth to place it upon an alter. To honor it and to protect it. I am speaking of identifying and elevating ideas. Although there are the foibles of clickishness and fascism and religion to avoid. So the goal should be learning and appreciation and celebration.

Gawd. I so hesitate to put these words out, even among the dozen or so that might read it. Sounds pretty pompous. I think I am trying to rev myself up to do something or other. Take on a new project. But hopefully it will result in something pretty and entertaining and appreciated by the intelligentia among the peers I have chosen.

From: shanekeiko Date: December 25th, 2004 09:08 am (UTC) (Link)

and yet ...

... whether it pleases you ought to be of paramount importance!
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